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Fixing A Brick Patio

5.2K views 11 replies 10 participants last post by  hardscapesp  
#1 ·
Hi, all.

So I had a referral to talk with a guy about sprucing up a landscape and there is a brick courtyard that he had "professionally installed" by a company a couple of years ago. Needless to say, as you can see by the image, the spacing alone is bad, bad, bad.

He, on the other hand, is OK with the spacing. What he doesn't like is the weeds growing between. They didn't use paver sand or polymeric, it is just normal play sand mixed with whatever top soil was there that got mixed in. :wall

He would like me to just "fill the cracks" with mortar, ignoring the spacing issues. My concern is that the mortar will set on top of the sand and start popping up after a few years. Not to mention, without pulling up any bricks, that I suspect that there is no concrete pad underneath. I suspect polymeric sand (which I am not a fan of using) is going to do this as well.

I'm tempted to send him to my applicator guy and have the patio treated for weed control and leave it at that. At the same time, I have a feeling if I just say no, he is going to hire someone else to do it instead.

Am I being too technical on the guy? I would like him as a client, but I don't want to mess him up and I'm willing to walk away rather than bury myself in a mess. He does NOT want to start over, I know that much. I'm currently at 27 patios that I have installed over the past 15 years with no major issues except for a paver or two that popped out from a tree root (fortunately on my own property.)

Thanks in advance for any advice (or critiques that I need to go to that paver school in Wisconsin - I agree! )

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#5 ·
Thanks for the responses, Groomer, Allabouttheyard and Mr.Jon.

I don't have nearly the experience as the pros that are in the hardscape forums, so I appreciate the feedback. He'll get the option of an applicator to come in that knows his stuff or start from scratch, but I'll be more than happy to take on the landscape and subcontract as needed to help manage it along for him. That's a place I'm quite content at the moment to be. :)
 
#9 ·
I also dont see a reason to start over.

why would there be a concrete pad underneath bricks?
Do you mean crushed gravel?

Depending on how old the brick patio installation is, it was not common practice to lay brick on crushed gravel treated pads back in the day, it was just a sand bed.

I wouldnt do a brick patio anymore, they're also hard to come by now.
Used to be when people where tearing down old brick buildings you could get recycled bricks for a song, which is where you find the brick patios, they were installed in that era.