[hmlawn]

Got a (2007?) Briggs and Stratton Storm Responder 5500 watt generator, neighbor gave it to me because it wouldn't start. It's got a Model 216112 B&S engine.

I know I have spark, I have cleaned the carburetor 3 times (it wasn't really that dirty to begin with) and replaced the main o-ring that goes around the whole top of the carb (it was kind of peeling up and needed replacing), and did a few other things.

The gasket that goes between the carburetor and the air cleaner housing was basically nonexistent, so I made one out of card stock paper to see if I could get it going (parts place didn't have them in stock). That probably isn't helping, but the weird thing is that a ton of fuel is being coughed out of the back of the carb into the air cleaner every time I go to start it, and the spark plug is wet after a few tries. Anything in particular within the carb that I need to replace? some small o-ring somewhere or something? Neighbor wants it done for $100 or less in parts. Any help would be great! Thank you!

 

[looperlawn]

Could be a stuck valve.

 

[hmlawn]

Could be a stuck valve.

Forgot to mention I've fired it up for short amounts of time by shooting carb cleaner down the throat so valves must be working properly.

 

[Wacker Mechanic]

I've never worked on a generator, but here's my 2 cents...
If you have spark and the plug is wet, then it's flooded. Remove the plug, then pull the starter rope 10 times. Then let it sit (preferably in the sun) for a few hours. Most people say it doesn't take nearly that long. In the meantime, sand inside the spark plug's gap with fine sandpaper and clean it thoroughly and regap it. Once the generator dries out, try to start it. It will probably fire. If it floods again, check the following...
1.) If the carb has a bowl, check the nut that holds the bowl on. It is the main fuel jet. Remove the nut and push a small wire through each hole (sides and top) to clean it out.
2.) Remove the muffler and make sure the exhaust port is clear. If it is plugged up, scrape the carbon out after moving the piston up to block the hole. Do not scratch the piston. Also make sure the muffler itself (particularly the spark arrestor screen) is clear.
3.) Make sure the air filter is clean. You can run it without the filter to see if there is any difference. A dirty air filter can cause a rich condition (starved of air), which can lead to flooding.
4.) Check compression. A low compression engine will be very hard to start and will flood easier. It probably starts with 150psi new and by the time it wears down to about 90psi, it is on its way out.
You want to get it running without having it flood again. It will flood if you pull the rope too many times without getting it to start.

 

[BigFish]

Got a (2007?) Briggs and Stratton Storm Responder 5500 watt generator, neighbor gave it to me because it wouldn't start. It's got a Model 216112 B&S engine.

I know I have spark, I have cleaned the carburetor 3 times (it wasn't really that dirty to begin with) and replaced the main o-ring that goes around the whole top of the carb (it was kind of peeling up and needed replacing), and did a few other things.

The gasket that goes between the carburetor and the air cleaner housing was basically nonexistent, so I made one out of card stock paper to see if I could get it going (parts place didn't have them in stock). That probably isn't helping, but the weird thing is that a ton of fuel is being coughed out of the back of the carb into the air cleaner every time I go to start it, and the spark plug is wet after a few tries. Anything in particular within the carb that I need to replace? some small o-ring somewhere or something? Neighbor wants it done for $100 or less in parts. Any help would be great! Thank you!

First off, you need to post the type code of the motor as stamped in the plate, tells us what ya got.

And from what I can tell, what ya got is a flooded unit, more than likely due to a bad inlet needle/seat, you need to check it for proper sealing.
Get ya a new needle ( should be rubber tipped), check the seat for any crud, etc and ya should be good to go.
Do you mean the bowl gasket/oring?

 

[Richard Martin]

First price the carburetor at a local dealer it may be cheaper than expected. If its less than $50 I would just purchase and replace it saving yourself some headache and trouble. But you definitely have carburetor issues including a non seating inlet needle. The inlet needle closes off fuel into the carburetor as the float comes to the full level in your carburetor float bowl. Since the inlet needle is not seating fuel is running out of your air filter area because it has no other place to go. At the very least a carburetor kit with a new needle and seat should be installed to the engine. After properly rebuilding the carburetor and reinstalling or installing a new carburetor with fresh fuel your engine should run great. Assuming of course everything else is fine with the engine which from your above description it does sound like it is. Some pics with your carburetor disassembled could help.

 

[hmlawn]

First off, you need to post the type code of the motor as stamped in the plate, tells us what ya got.

And from what I can tell, what ya got is a flooded unit, more than likely due to a bad inlet needle/seat, you need to check it for proper sealing.
Get ya a new needle ( should be rubber tipped), check the seat for any crud, etc and ya should be good to go.
Do you mean the bowl gasket/oring?

Model is 216112. Type is 0110-E1. Don't know the code off of the top of my head but the first two digits for year of production is 07.

Yeah, I meant the bowl gasket/oring. Only on this one it's not only an oring but looks kinda like a spiders web the way it seals off various areas of the carb.

Here's the partstree website for this unit:

http://www.partstree.com/parts/brig...engine-with-recoil-starter/216112-0110-e1-briggs-stratton-engine-rewind-starter

 

[hmlawn]

First price the carburetor at a local dealer it may be cheaper than expected. If its less than $50 I would just purchase and replace it saving yourself some headache and trouble. But you definitely have carburetor issues including a non seating inlet needle. The inlet needle closes off fuel into the carburetor as the float comes to the full level in your carburetor float bowl. Since the inlet needle is not seating fuel is running out of your air filter area because it has no other place to go. At the very least a carburetor kit with a new needle and seat should be installed to the engine.
...
Some pics with your carburetor disassembled could help.

Carburetor is $97.51 on parts tree and probably would be a little cheaper from a dealer but not by enough to make it possible to get one.

I'll try to get some photos for y'all soon. Cross country season just finished up for me so a lot more free time now that I don't have practice every week day after school lol.

 

[BoudreauxEunice]

I agree with Fish on the seat. I played heck with a carb one time and I finally took the seat out. There was a hair fine mosquitoe leg in there. Blow it it out too when the seat is out.

Walker I'm not sure if you can see the piston when you take the muffler off ???????

 

[BigFish]

I agree with Fish on the seat. I played heck with a carb one time and I finally took the seat out. There was a hair fine mosquitoe leg in there. Blow it it out too when the seat is out.

Walker I'm not sure if you can see the piston when you take the muffler off ???????

You cant. Ol' Skippy is just stuck in his own little two cycle lack 'O' compression world.

 

[BigFish]

Model is 216112. Type is 0110-E1. Don't know the code off of the top of my head but the first two digits for year of production is 07.

Yeah, I meant the bowl gasket/oring. Only on this one it's not only an oring but looks kinda like a spiders web the way it seals off various areas of the carb.

Here's the partstree website for this unit:

http://www.partstree.com/parts/brig...engine-with-recoil-starter/216112-0110-e1-briggs-stratton-engine-rewind-starter

Yeah, them are the type numbers .
On the nikki carb, the main jet is held in place by it's O ring, which can harden, allowing the jet to drop out of the plastic tower assy. Can't buy just the O ring. So ya gotta make sure the jet is in place.

This might help ya: http://outdoorpowerinfo.com/repairs/briggs_intek_single_ohv_nikki_carb.asp

 

[fireball756]

personally, I would like to know what happened to the mosquito leg, those gas marinated legs are hard to come by but mighty tasty in crock pot.

Sounds like stale gas issues. Get a carb rebuild kit, soak everything in sea foam for a couple days then rebuild carb. Move engine to top dead center, fill cylinder with mystery oil, let soak a few days, pull start cord several times to remove excess oil, install new plug, install rebuilt carb, put in fresh gas(assuming that you already dumped old gas and cleaned out tank), starts on second pull and lots of smoke. Change oil after adjusting carb and running 15 minutes

 

[BoudreauxEunice]

Mosquitoes are the Louisiana state bird and there is no closed hunting season on them, but damn it takes so many to make a gumbo ~!~!

 

[BigFish]

Mosquitoes are the Louisiana state bird and there is no closed hunting season on them, but damn it takes so many to make a gumbo ~!~!

That kinda reminds me of my truckin' days. Used to haul from Windsor, VA over to houston, austin, laredo, and like that. Anyways, on the way down I ran along the 10 and always stopped by the Tiger truck stop in Grosse Tete. The little restaurant behind the place had "skeeter gumbo" on the menu. Never had it though, I usually got the crawfish omelette.

I heard if ya put some Tiger Sauce on em, they be right tasty!

 

[BoudreauxEunice]

Damn Fish I might know you. Grosse Tete is where I had a business at. My 2nd Lawn mower shop and I used to have a CB shop in that small building by the Tiger cage. In 90 to 97 ~!~!

 

[Patriot Services]

personally, I would like to know what happened to the mosquito leg, those gas marinated legs are hard to come by but mighty tasty in crock pot.

Sounds like stale gas issues. Get a carb rebuild kit, soak everything in sea foam for a couple days then rebuild carb. Move engine to top dead center, fill cylinder with mystery oil, let soak a few days, pull start cord several times to remove excess oil, install new plug, install rebuilt carb, put in fresh gas(assuming that you already dumped old gas and cleaned out tank), starts on second pull and lots of smoke. Change oil after adjusting carb and running 15 minutes

Why the stuck ring treatment with MM? He didn't mention low compression.
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[BigFish]

Damn Fish I might know you. Grosse Tete is where I had a business at. My 2nd Lawn mower shop and I used to have a CB shop in that small building by the Tiger cage. In 90 to 97 ~!~!

Not likely, back in '95-2002 was mostly pullin' reefers from right to left and back, kept pretty much to I-40, I -70 and occasionally runnin' across the top. Got most all of my CB work done at a shop in TN.

 

[BoudreauxEunice]

Back in 93 i got a bundle of NA trucker mags delivered to me. I told the guy I didn't order that, they go to the fuel desk. He said I delivered theirs already. He said go to page 5. LO and behold there I was voted the 2nd best radio man in the nation. Didn't know A few guys nominated me and I was flabbergasted ~!~!

 

[BigFish]

Back in 93 i got a bundle of NA trucker mags delivered to me. I told the guy I didn't order that, they go to the fuel desk. He said I delivered theirs already. He said go to page 5. LO and behold there I was voted the 2nd best radio man in the nation. Didn't know A few guys nominated me and I was flabbergasted ~!~!

Cool !!!!!

 

[hmlawn]

Good news! Finally got the generator running. The only other issue I have with it is when it's first started, it just sits there idling and puffing smoke until i work the throttle back and forth for quite some time, before it picks up speed and sputters up to full throttle. Any ideas? it's not a generator with a idle-down feature, it should start and just hit full throttle immediately but when started it likes to stay barely running for a very long time.

Turns out the intake valve rocker was too tight and holding the valve open slightly, hence all the gas spitting back out of the carb and the low compression. I should've caught that it had low compression early on but overlooked that issue, rookie mistake lol.