You sold me without providing any possible supporting data. How do I sign up.

 

Didn't you see the pretty color-coded graph? One line is clearly longer than the other. What more do you need?

 

You mean you have to have no brain to go electric?

 

This might ruffle a few feathers but after our discussion last week about electric vs gas push mowers, I spent the weekend building a super detailed model to decide which equipment I would go with. Pretty obvious to me that electric is the way to go: gas savings today are high (even when you consider extra batteries) and will only increase over time. Not even sure why anyone argues otherwise. Couple of highlights below, full article is here: Going electric has (finally) become a no-brainer - Duranta

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Brand? Check out Skil they have some stuff at Lowe’s

 

How do the numbers hold up for a guy that doesn't use a mower but only uses a string trimmer that he carries in the back of his Buick?

I mean, just hypothetically.

 

Oh, and do the battery powered mowers still have gearboxes that require sticky stuff?

 

Most of the difference in operating costs are gas versus electric, but these are the numbers I used for calculating maintenance - left is gas right is electric.

 

LOL!

Lookit thems chartz n graphz!
It must be true!

Gotta wonder if you have ever mowed a lawn before.

This coming from someone who has been running cordless handheld equipment for 9 years now.

 

He's a software guy, so I'm guessing no.

 

What, pray tell, is a belt tune-up?

 

Hey, everyone, look at this guy here running all his equipment with belts out of tune! Ha ha!

 

 

This might ruffle a few feathers but after our discussion last week about electric vs gas push mowers, I spent the weekend building a super detailed model to decide which equipment I would go with. Pretty obvious to me that electric is the way to go: gas savings today are high (even when you consider extra batteries) and will only increase over time. Not even sure why anyone argues otherwise. Couple of highlights below, full article is here: Going electric has (finally) become a no-brainer - Duranta

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So, as someone who doesn't even mow his own grass, perhaps you could clarify something for me.

Your article says that the electric vs gas only applies for someone running push mowers. So, if my hypothetical guy is using one of the pretty Ego mowers in your photo, the ego website tells me it lasts "up to 60 minutes" - I'll be generous and assume it does in fact last 60 minutes. So, in an 8 hour work day, I'd need (8) $423 batteries (according to Amazon as of this writing) - I assume it comes with 1 so I only need to buy 7 for $2,960 to do the job. Does your graph account for this?

 

Huh...you read it?

Guess my question is...if these are all push mowers, what is a moderate push mower vs a heavy push mower?

 

Wondering if @Turf Tracer could jump in and provide some real world feedback on drug using mower operators and the effect their urine has on electric mowers...if they miss the Gatorade bottle, that is.

 

I'm sure the results would shock you

 

If only the real world was as neat and pretty as your hypothetical world...

 

If he can't afford the Cyber Truck, I think they have plug-in Priuses as well

 

@SamDuranta I don't know what you're trying to sell, but I'm afraid your practical understanding of who uses push mowers, and how much they use them, - thus, the inputs for your "math" are completely bogus.

I see that you conveniently ignored the math that I posted previously, about my experience, and cost of comparing my own cordless string trimmer, vs. 2-cycle gas.

Let me sum it up with a quick story - I haven't used the cordless string trimmer in over a year - despite having more than enough batteries now. (Well, in theory anyway...)





Now, in the string trimmer example, all the battery has to do is spin the cutter-head & string.

Vs. a self-propelled push mower, that has to push that mower through tall spring growth, even on un-level ground, then generate enough airflow to pull the grass into the deck, and then cut/mulch/discharge those clippings.





If you really want to convince this crowd (and whomever your targeted "customer base" is ...) that cordless mowers are better, I'm afraid you'll have to put your money where your mouth is, and go generate more income with the cordless push mower, than is possible with a gas-powered push mower. Before you start down that very epensive & painstaking road, let me warn you, that it will be an economic loser.

 

If you really want to convince this crowd (and whomever your targeted "customer base" is ...) that cordless mowers are better, I'm afraid you'll have to put your money where your mouth is, and go generate more income with the cordless push mower, than is possible with a gas-powered push mower. Before you start down that very epensive & painstaking road, let me warn you, that it will be an economic loser.

Wait, have we even considered how plug-in corded mowers affect the numbers? You get the benefits of all electric with none of the limitations of battery power!!!

 

According to Lowe's, their Kobalt brand corded mower is "electric start" - that's even better than the pull-start electric mowers that other people are offering! Be sure to factor the time spent pull-starting into the next chart.

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Kobalt-13-Amp-21-in-Corded-Electric-Lawn-Mower/1000731660

Sadly, there is no word on how much a belt tune up runs on one.

 

Look at all these 1 star reviews on the Stihl push mower.

Google Search

 

My lowes one with the cord has 4.1 stars. Just sayin'

 

I'm not gonna drink the Kool-aid and I actually run some batt handhelds. The technology just isn't there for a batt 52" mower thats used commercially. 3 times the cost and twice the weight.

 

Agreed for a 52" - that's why I included a section in the article called "Where electric doesn't work (yet)". But for smaller mowers (30" and less) its valid.

 

OP is off his rocker.

 

I like battery hedge trimmers, and turtles.

 

I do love my Frankenstein cordless hedge trimmers.

Of all the cordless tools, hedge trimmers make the most sense to go cordless. Worst power tool ever to be powered by a gas engine.

Y'all can have everything else in cordless-battery. But you'll have to pry my cordless short-pole hedge trimmers from cold dead hands.




Turtles - They're not bad too I guess.

 

This thread has the best popcorn and entertainment.

 

@Jashley73

 

I guess even funnier than a belt tune-up is the fact that most (all?) 21" push mowers don't have belts.

 

Well, then that should cut the belt tune up costs in half. Maybe more.

 

How many services even use 21" mowers anymore?

 

Tons of them in use in the city - and not just solo hacks - every big landscaping company has crews with 21" mowers on the truck/trailer around here.
How else can you cut the lawns? You can't put anything else on a lot of them.

 

Maybe this thread should be in the Homeowner Forum?

 

Serious note, the batteries are so expensive. The best Stihl battery is 500 dollars. provides 325 watt hours. An off the shelf 12.8 volt 100 ah Lithium iron battery is under $200 now, provides 1280 watt hours-4x the power storage of the stihl battery.

If a company would make a push mower that used the standard 100ah battery I think they would be cheaper to run than gas. i know the mower would cost more because you would likely need to have a dc to dc convertor to boost the voltage. But then you would only have 400 dollars worth of batteries ( 2x 12.8 100ah) to make it thru a day, vs 3 or 4 $500 batteries.

Course this will never likely happen, because I think the batteries are a big source of profit for manufactures and retailers.

 

The proprietary battery thing is bullshyt.

I've been out of the fire service for awhile, but rescue tool companies were just coming out with good, reliable battery powered rescue tools when I retired. One was using Milwaukee M18 batteries. Absolutely brilliant. All the others were using proprietary batteries.

One of the stretcher companies was doing the same thing, using Milwaukee M18 batteries for the stretcher lift.

 

I have adaptors so I can use my Milwaukee batteries in my Ryobi tools. I bought a second one to use the Milwaukee batts in a couple of DeWalt things I have.

I think a few people who are hardcore into battery sometimes discount the fact that once everything is converted, and we are all dependent on batter equipment and everything that goes with them (cases, chargers, batteries, brushes, etc) the prices on those items will skyrocket, as will the cost to charge them.

The other nagging issue I personally have is that everyone's got different circumstances. An electric mower is definitely NOT cutting the 9 fert n squirt accounts I had this season, in one day without massive battery consideration (either more batts or a system on my trailer or truck)....... AND I carry my 21 in the bed of my truck. It bangs around a bit back there. Can an electric 21 withstand the troubles and turmoils of a good ol Toro ? If yes, then for how long?

I have no problem with those who want to run battery stuff. I run some battery HH's myself!! But I'd never tell another that it's the better way...

 

I have no problem with those who want to run battery stuff. I run some battery HH's myself!! But I'd never tell another that it's the better way...

It's my way or the highway!!