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"Grass Flap" OCDC

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#1 · (Edited)
I just ran across an OCDC I've never seen before. Looks like an advantage it has over some other OCDC's is the fact that it's foot operated. Unlike some of the other blockers, it also opens more than 180 degrees, allowing for right side trimming.

Price may be a little steep though. Doesn't look like much equipment for 240.00.

Some of you may have seen it before, but I just ran across it on YT.

Here's the link:
 
#8 ·
Looks nice and simple. No electric motor to go bad. Hands are freed up. Just not making them for my mowers yet.

http://grassflap.com/
Hey MtMower, I just happened to look at the "grass flap" site last night and then saw this post this AM.

Don't know if you know it are not, but the site now allows you to give them the details of your deck opening (and other facts) so they can build one specifically for your mower (if it's a mower they haven't started making a flap for yet). They are also now using a cable between the foot pedal and the flap....much nicer set up compared to what the old video showed.

I'm going to get one of these because I like the idea of using your feet to operate the flap.

Just thought I'd let you know.
Have a good one! Stan
 
#9 ·
Hey MtMower, I just happened to look at the "grass flap" site last night and then saw this post this AM.

Don't know if you know it are not, but the site now allows you to give them the details of your deck opening (and other facts) so they can build one specifically for your mower (if it's a mower they haven't started making a flap for yet). They are also now using a cable between the foot pedal and the flap....much nicer set up compared to what the old video showed.

I'm going to get one of these because I like the idea of using your feet to operate the flap.

Just thought I'd let you know.
Have a good one! Stan
Keep us updated on it once you get to use it. I ended up with a power chute and it's ok. My X Factor deck has a lot of blow out from the front when down. The PC works good up and ok all the way down. Hard to adjust in between coming from up to down. Easier to adjust part way open going from closed to open. Can't bump the flap at all in any position but full up or down since the plastic motor gears take the impact. Already replaced on motor. PC has been good as a company. Even warrantied the motor the first time. Bought a back up from NAPA with a one year warranty for about $45. My look at GF for my next unit.
 
#10 ·
Keep us updated on it once you get to use it. I ended up with a power chute and it's ok. My X Factor deck has a lot of blow out from the front when down. The PC works good up and ok all the way down. Hard to adjust in between coming from up to down. Easier to adjust part way open going from closed to open. Can't bump the flap at all in any position but full up or down since the plastic motor gears take the impact. Already replaced on motor. PC has been good as a company. Even warrantied the motor the first time. Bought a back up from NAPA with a one year warranty for about $45. My look at GF for my next unit.
Will do. Have a good one! Stan
PS Not sure when I'll get one because I really don't need one that much....but I still plan on gettin' one.
 
#11 ·
I've been using the GF for 4 years on both of our mowers. Don't really know how we survived a year without them! The new cable operated version has improved an already great design and I highly recommend either unit. The best attributes you won't find anywhere else are the hands-free operation and flapping >180 degrees completely out of the way for right side trimming. Its an ingenious design and a reliable product with great customer service.
 
#12 ·
I've been using the GF for 4 years on both of our mowers. Don't really know how we survived a year without them! The new cable operated version has improved an already great design and I highly recommend either unit. The best attributes you won't find anywhere else are the hands-free operation and flapping >180 degrees completely out of the way for right side trimming. Its an ingenious design and a reliable product with great customer service.
I feel exactly the same.....wouldn't want to be without one now that I've used one. It took a little tweaking to get it adjusted correctly, but it now works flawlessly.

I feel as though anyone would be happy with a un-powered "Grass Flap", or the electrically powered equivalent which is the "Power Chute"....both have their advantages. It was pretty much a toss up for me, but I ended up going with the Grass Flap.
Stan
 
#13 ·
I've been using the GF for 4 years on both of our mowers. Don't really know how we survived a year without them! The new cable operated version has improved an already great design and I highly recommend either unit. The best attributes you won't find anywhere else are the hands-free operation and flapping >180 degrees completely out of the way for right side trimming. Its an ingenious design and a reliable product with great customer service.
I feel exactly the same.....wouldn't want to be without it now that I've used one. It took a little tweaking to get it adjusted correctly, but it now works flawlessly.

I feel as though anyone would be happy with an un-powered "Grass Flap", or the electrically powered equivalent which is the "Power Chute"....both have their advantages. It was pretty much a toss up for me, but I ended up going with the Grass Flap.
Stan
 
#14 ·
I feel exactly the same.....wouldn't want to be without it now that I've used one. It took a little tweaking to get it adjusted correctly, but it now works flawlessly.

I feel as though anyone would be happy with an un-powered "Grass Flap", or the electrically powered equivalent which is the "Power Chute"....both have their advantages. It was pretty much a toss up for me, but I ended up going with the Grass Flap.
Stan
Has GrassFlap come up with a unit for a walk behind?
 
#16 ·
I'm not sure but here's a link to their site.
http://grassflap.com/

I dealt with David, he was really helpful and easy to deal with. Good luck!
Stan
Stan, thanks for the link. They have a video of a unit on an Exmark wb. NOt sure if foot activated is the best way to go on a walk behind, especially if one is not using a sulky. This product would be a good choice for a standon mower.

One question: Can you use a bagger with the ocdc or does it need to be removed first?

Thanks.
 
#17 ·
Stan, thanks for the link. They have a video of a unit on an Exmark wb. NOt sure if foot activated is the best way to go on a walk behind, especially if one is not using a sulky. This product would be a good choice for a standon mower.

One question: Can you use a bagger with the ocdc or does it need to be removed first?

Thanks.
Actually, I think the foot operation is the best way to go, even on WB so your hands don't leave the controls. You may need to pause during the operation, but that seems better than taking your hands off the controls.

I may have to disagree with Stan, I don't think all OCDC are created equal. One of the biggest advantages to the GrassFlap is it's reliable mechanism. Any time you add an electric motor, it would seem more prone to failure. However, I have to agree with him about the customer service I received from David...5 stars!

I recommend you call him with specific application questions. He was more than helpful in outfitting our Toro's, which at the time he didn't have a model for. Just give him some measurements and he can fit one to your mower.
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#18 ·
I may try a GF on my new Hustler. Only thing I'm still not sold on is to keep it in a mid position settings it looks as though your feathering the pedal which maybe someone can give some feed back on how well this works. I rarely have the shoot all the way closed due to blow out or wind rowing. More often I run it about 3/4 closed. When using the PC, if your quick, you can bump the pedal to almost any position. The PC is more costly but does work nice if you can keep from impacting it when it's in any position but full open or full closed. When this happens the plastic gears in the motor strip. $40 and five min. and your back in action unless you catch it so bad you mangle metal then it may take a little longer to straight out. But this would also be the case with the GF as well.

If anyone is interested in a PC for a Gravely 460 I have a used one for sale.
 
#19 ·
Stan, thanks for the link. They have a video of a unit on an Exmark wb. NOt sure if foot activated is the best way to go on a walk behind, especially if one is not using a sulky. This product would be a good choice for a standon mower.

One question: Can you use a bagger with the ocdc or does it need to be removed first?

Thanks.
The reason I narrowed my choices down to the Grass Flap and the Power Chute was because they were foot operated, leaving both hands free (the PC switch can obviously be set up to be activated by either a hand or foot).

I've never used a walk behind, but off of the top of my head I would think you'd want a hand operated OCDC on a walk behind unit. I would think that placing a button on one of the control arms would be an ideal setup for that.
(Maybe someone with more experience in a situation like this will correct me if I'm wrong about that).

Sorry, but I've never used a bagger so I can't help you there. Maybe someone will chime in and give you some advice on that.
Stan
 
#20 · (Edited)
Actually, I think the foot operation is the best way to go, even on WB so your hands don't leave the controls. You may need to pause during the operation, but that seems better than taking your hands off the controls.

I may have to disagree with Stan, I don't think all OCDC are created equal. One of the biggest advantages to the GrassFlap is it's reliable mechanism. Any time you add an electric motor, it would seem more prone to failure. However, I have to agree with him about the customer service I received from David...5 stars!

I recommend you call him with specific application questions. He was more than helpful in outfitting our Toro's, which at the time he didn't have a model for. Just give him some measurements and he can fit one to your mower.
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No no, I'm like you, not all OCDC's are created equal....not even close. But, as far as the GF and PC go, they are very similar. As you know, one uses an electric motor while the other is mechanically (foot/cable) operated.

The pluses for the GF is that there is no motor to worry about, and it's slightly less expensive, while the plus for the PC is that you can stop in any position between "open" and "closed". The GF has only 2 positions, "open" and "closed". And for what it's worth, the PC will also forcefully hold the door closed, while the GF doesn't. As the grass builds up underneath the deck the GF door/blocker will open slightly to allow the build up to roll out. Depending on who you're taliking to, that can be counted as either a "plus" or "minus".

This was an absolute must for me (and the reason that so many OCDC's were eliminated at the very beginning).
They both open up to 180 degrees (or more) so that you can trim with the rt side of the deck (ie:nothing sticks out farther than the side of the deck itself). This was an absolute for me since I pull a trail mower behind and offset to the left of my Z, which means I trim with the rt side of my Z's deck.
 
#21 ·
This was an absolute must for me (and the reason that so many OCDC's were eliminated at the very beginning).
They both open up to 180 degrees (or more) so that you can trim with the rt side of the deck (ie:nothing sticks out farther than the side of the deck itself). This was an absolute for me since I pull a trail mower behind and offset to the left of my Z, which means I trim with the rt side of my Z's deck.
Before purchase call and make sure nothing sticks out further than the deck on either of these units. I've been told that it depends on the mower's deck.

My PC for my 460 stuck out around .5-1" due to how it mounted. I was told this up front prior to purchase so no surprise. Was enough to catch a fence when I was getting lazy in the full up position and cause a little mayhem. My fault of course.
 
#22 ·
One of my favorite features of the GF is the ability to balance the flap in mid-range positions. Unlike the PC, the GF's position depends on the amount of pressure you push down with your foot. It can be feathered between closed and open VERY easily. A quick "flip" of the foot then puts it in the completely up and out of the way position.
 
#23 ·
One of my favorite features of the GF is the ability to balance the flap in mid-range positions. Unlike the PC, the GF's position depends on the amount of pressure you push down with your foot. It can be feathered between closed and open VERY easily. A quick "flip" of the foot then puts it in the completely up and out of the way position.
Thanks for the info. I think GF would benefit by making this clear on their web site. Of course I may have missed it.
 
#26 ·
You just keep pressure on the foot pedal, it won't stay in a mid-level position on it's own.

I am not affiliated with GF. Just a small lawn care guy with a GF on both Toro G3's, but am absolutely thrilled with the units. The truth is the first year we were in business I operated without a OCDC because we couldn't find one with all the features we were looking for. Low and behold we found the GF and it hits on EVERY critical criteria - foot operated, flips completely out of the way on top of the deck, and mechanical.

Once I got familiar with using it, you don't even slow down, just flip on the run, or feather as you pass your partner or the weed eater. You can also skip a stripe with the discharge pointing towards a sidewalk with the unit closed, and come back with it open along the sidewalk blowing into the yard to minimize clean-up.

I just want to help other guys know how it works because it's the only unit we could find that does everything so well.