Here's a good article on humates.

How humates help your turf | Landscape Management

Humates can cause some confusion in the industry but experts explain how adding them to a lawn care program can create healthier, hardier turf.

www.landscapemanagement.net

 

Andersons now makes poly coated humic coated urea, may be something to look into, im sure its crazy expensive, but probably MUCH cheaper then 2 stepping 2 different products.

 

Yup their new poly coat, humic coat urea was one of the reasons I started this thread. Does having the humates impregnated directly on the prill make a difference with respect to availability of N to turfgrass plants? I talked with an Andersons rep a few weeks back, and of course he said yes, but he's trying to sell product.

 

This quote is from the article I provided:
Because humates work to enhance the efficiency of other applied nutrients, LCOs can eventually expect to use less product to achieve the same or better results. Pease says product trials show LCOs who use humates for two seasons can achieve the same turf color and quality using 25 percent less nitrogen. As fertilizer prices continue to rise, using less of these products can save LCOs money. Using less fertilizer is also beneficial in areas with restrictions on fertilizer use and may appeal to eco-minded customers
Not sure if that answers your question.

 

It answers half of it for sure. Money savings for the LCO is a huge plus, and less added synthetic N is a plus for both the LCO and the customer, in addition to the ecosystem. . Now...what about turfgrass quality and nutrient uptake in the plants? I certainly want the customer to get something out of it as well

 

I think that was answered in the beginning of the quote I sent.

 

I like this one.. 50 Lb Bag too.

Humic Acid Powder 100% Soluble | Best Wholesale Price | Fast Ship - Compostwerks | Products & Services for Ecological Land Care

 

Do you feel spraying this on is more effective than using a dispersable granule like Humic DG?

 

DA,

I have never used a Granular version. Only soluble powders.

 

This is what I’m trying on the first round. I’ll run it at a 1/2#N and see what I get for results. It will be mixed with micros and a round of certainty.

 

Benefit to running the humic directly on fert vs separate fert then humic apps?

 

I started using a hydra smart lime that is coated in humic. I feel using one granular app with humic and then including it in my liquid apps (i use the anderson humic coated (hcu) urea.
I mix it in at 25 lb per acre(per 50 gal for me) with my late spring and summer apps with acelepryn.
I do have a concern of using to much humic in a liquid mix. You can mix it pretty heavy in a liquid for for nutritional issues on turf shrubs and trees, but i have read that you can have compatability issues. Since its basically carbon it can "bind" to other products (systemic insecticide and herbicide). Not through research of my own just in reading some info from the ag colleges.