Difficult to compete w/Toro Honda stranglehold on high end push and the Crap market is saturated.

 

Figured that had a lot to do with it.the blade on those UK mowers are interesting

 

they made a deal with honda to only sell honda at the dealers. same goes for stihl.

 

My JD dealers sell Stihl and Red Max as well as Exmark's line.

JD never really made their own push mowers, and since the market is pretty well covered, it isn't in their best interest too try to compete in that arena these days. I have several older JD 21's and they are some of the best cutting mowers ever made, but they are fairly heavy. That may just be why they are lasting so long.

 

I had a JD commercial 21 on a trailer years ago when Toro had the Suzuki engines and LB had a Commercial unit w/2strokes. It was decent mower but nobody wanted use it because weighed about 30lbs more than the LB and 10 or 15lbs more than the Toro/Suzuki’s.

Dealer stopped selling them. Only the Toros and LB’s going out the door

 

j d most def made their own mowers. the old 14sb silver and the green jx series were all deere and great machines. I still have 4 left working . parts support is still aval from deere. the comm model jx 85 was very good but the toro Suzuki was better and most of the pros bought that. toro and exmark own the comm 21 market today .

 

Yes, you can get the parts for just about any older JD from a dealer, but as far as I have ever been able to find out, the decks were made by someone else. The trans are/were Kanzaki supplied and the engines were B&S or Kaw. I keep a decent 14 SB on my trailer all summer and I use my JE75 around my own place where needed.

 

jx 85 was very good but the toro Suzuki was better and most of the pros bought that. toro and exmark own the comm 21 market today .

that's what happened here. We in the land where everyone serious about cutting carries at least 1 commercial push, some carry only commercial push and have several on trailers.

the Toro/Suzuki's couldn't be dethroned and dealers here dropped the jd's. Only mower came close was the old commercial LB w/Duraforce which weighed about 15lbs less than the toro's. But they were plagued w/breakage of the plastic drive wheels in the sp models and cables that broke more than they should.

 

We use JX90CB's, great machines and still available new.

 

A friend of mine used to be a "Wheel" at JD. He said the warranty work on those JD mowers was killing any profit they made. They made some good mowers and the warranty was really good also. However, replacing a clutch or a transmission could wipe out any profit they made.

 

yes turf T the llawn boy comm was built of cheap quality cables and plastic back wheels and didn't hold up well. where as the toro was true comm quality through out the entire mower. the 22240 was the best of the bunch. on summer there is one on my trailer every day some times 2. retired my lawnboys several years ago

 

deere at one time offered their commercial 21.s in bbc and WITHOUT bbc. I have both and the non bbc preformes much better and is lighter. the deere bbc system was not durable and always wears out . I delete mine with parts from the non bbc version . have done 3 of mine. no more bbc to break.

 

the trans is the weak link on the deere 14sb and jx models. its what causes most of their deaths. its intermal clutch is a bad desighn.

 

Well, mine are still working just fine and are all original, bit the BBC and the trannies. The 14SB is a 1995 unit and the JE75 is a 1997 unit. The only issue I have is with the 14 SB and the cable for the gears. It is stretched out a bit and could use replacing, but still works good enough. I can't say how they'd hold up for all day, every day use, but for part time use each week when needed, they have been great.

 

The JD push mowers here in Europe are in fact Sabo mowers. Since 1991 is Sabo a JD company. The red Sabo models are for homeowners and the green models are for commercial use.

https://www.sabo-online.de/de/