We haven't had an issue with that engine yet, lots of 25hp courage, but no 27hp, pretty weird, I guess its a completely different design. For $4999 you are roughly $1800 lower than your comparable exmark, freedom z scag, Hustler, Gravely 2760, not sure on the toro, but I have seen the same mower, motor, and pricing pretty similiar to the Exmark. All those mowers have the 7 guage deck, 2800 transaxle, kohler courage23,25,27/briggs26/and I think the hustler offers a 19hp kawasaki (not a big fan). They are all between $6500 and $7000 depending on the engine choice. Sometimes you get a sell, but you can be pretty assured that you are looking at the $6500 price point anyways. I love the ZT badboy (for the price). What I like people to do is shop, pic out the....say exmark with the kohler courage 60" (I think its the tracer) for nearly $7000, then go to your Bad Boy dealer and see what they have to offer for $7000. You get a 30hp kohler command, dual parker hydros with 9 quart tank, 1/4" deck, if you have a dealer that will deal a little, you might get the 31hp kawasaki for that. The Exmark dealer is right up the road from us, and you ought to see people's faces when I show them our mower after they just came from the other...its priceless... We don't have a toro dealer here, but I hear they are the same engine options and prices. Here is a good example of a toro/bb/ferris example. I finally talked one of the last LCO's around here into a BB AOS 27hp lc kawasaki $8895. Helped him sell his cat diesel ferris, and he is a big toro fan. I was a little worried, cause the only toro I had ever mowed on was the $2500 at home depot... He took delivery thursday and gave me a full review yesterday. He has a 7 man crew and has the highest end service here. He said everyone fights over the mower. The toros feel like turtles now, and he says they feel alot cheaper, and the aos cuts jsut as much grass the 72" 33hp cat diesel cut and is just as comfortable with a cleaner cut. His toros have kawasaki air-cooled engines, and he said he pays close to $10000 each, he paid $18000 for the ferris. To me they look and feel like BB Pups which sell for $6195 to $7000. His whole crew and him are convinced they are swapping to pups when they start retiring the toros. I bleed orange, and I will say through experience as first cutting with these, experiencing blown away customer service, and now through my own sales as a dealer I will say do not be scared out of buying a Bad Boy because its cheaper (or simply offers waaaay more mower for your mower), they are doing something amazing with their price points, and if everyone else doesn't follow suit with suspension systems, michigan seats standard, $1200 electric accuator standard for $2000 to $7000 cheaper than offered now, there shouldn't be another brand sold until they do. Something you would like changed on the Bad Boy, give them your feedback, if it makes sense they do it, they actually listen to us for a change. Sorry long post, just sharing what I know because you will have yahoos trying to talk you out of getting a good deal on here, not just cause its a bad boy either, if or when another brand takes suit and stands out like this I will support them just as much.
