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Melted Fuse

14K views 12 replies 6 participants last post by  dboyd351  
#1 ·
Yes, MELTED not just blown! Here's the story: I have a Ventrac 3000 with a Kawasaki FH601V 19HP with about 650 hours. When I bought the tractor about 4 years ago, it had "charging issues" but the seller thought they were fixed. A few times, I found the fuse between the starter and the voltage regulator had melted. This was inside the fuse, at the end, not in the middle where it should blow. I eventually changed to the new style prong type fuse and thought all was good! A few months ago, I added a volt meter and noticed the voltage never went higher than a little above 12 and sometimes barely above 10 volts. Finally, started checking things and found this. How does a fuse melt inside the fuse holder like this?

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#2 ·
The main cause of fuses melting is from poor/loose contact between the fuse and the holder, causing arcing and/or high resistance.
A good quality replacement fuse holder is hard to find. What I usually do is take my pliers and squeeze the holders terminals together ( before you insert the fuse ) so as to grip the fuse blades a bit tighter, or you can also ditch the fuse holder and just use individual crimp on terminals and tape to secure em.
 
#7 ·
Maybe the fuse is too small. Or something is drawing too much current. Or there is a short.
But yes, as you suspect--you need to get the "charging issue " fixed. Voltage is supposed to be about 14.5 when the engine is running. About 12.8 when engine is not running.
Have the voltage regulator checked--or replaced.
 
#9 ·
Replace it with this. Problem solved.
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That will work. BUT, when installed in the charge wire/ circuit ya need to make sure the "bat." terminal ( on the circ. bkr. ) is connected to the wire coming from the regulator/ rectifier. Which is opposite of how they are normally installed in a circuit.

Once again, the problem is not a short in yer wiring, but rather, poor/ loose connections between the fuse and the holder.
 
#10 ·
That will work. BUT, when installed in the charge wire/ circuit ya need to make sure the "bat." terminal ( on the circ. bkr. ) is connected to the wire coming from the regulator/ rectifier. Which is opposite of how they are normally installed in a circuit.

Once again, the problem is not a short in yer wiring, but rather, poor/ loose connections between the fuse and the holder.
OK, thanks to everyone for your thoughts and advice. I installed a new blade style fuse holder and everything seems to be working now. It is showing about 14 volts when running so I'm definitely getting charging! With the voltmeter in the dash I can keep my eye on the voltage and know if something goes wrong. I also removed the dust cap from the fuse holder so I can keep my eye on the fuse and fuse holder easier.

Big Fish: Do you believe my ONLY problem is the connection between the fuse and the fuse holder? I'm surprised the original tube type fuse holder had the same problem as my replacement blade type fuse holder. In defense of your theory, the first replacement lasted two plus years and around 100 hours or so. I HOPE this is my only problem but I fear there is something else. :)
 
#11 ·
This time, the fuse blew. Because I now have volt meter installed, I could see I was not getting 13+ volts at WOT so knew there was a problem. I replaced the fuse and all seems good. The way it blew seems a bit strange. See pics??? Why is it intermittently blowing or melting fuses. Voltage regulator?

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#12 ·
Notice the grooves in the blades of the fuse. It sure looks like it is making a tight connection..... Anyhow, I decided to use an auto reset circuit breaker and see what happens. Since I have voltmeter in the dash, I can keep my eye on the voltage.
 
#13 ·
Almost looks like it may have shorted across the 2 blades where the fuse plugs into the fuse block. See the holes of missing metal on the inside top part of each fuse blade - that's not normally there on the blade fuses I've seen. I wonder if it is somehow shorting between the 2 blades where it plugs into the block.