A member has sent me a private msg asking about Milorganite. I decided to answer here for the benefit of everyone.
"I am offering organic fertilizer programs this yr with 3 of the apps being Milorganite. Can you please relate your experience with this product. Tell me everything but include whether or not customers asked you what was in it and if they were "grossed out" when they found out. ty very much !"
I started using Milorganite a couple of years ago since it is a pretty cheap organic fertilizer. Other bagged organic ferts that I have seen are $20 or more per bag. Milorganite is about $10 for a 40LB bag or $13 for a 50lb bag. I have heard many things about it. I have seen comments on Lawnsite such as "I think Milorganite is the best lawn fertilizer you can buy". I once heard someone say "It will green up a lawn overnight".
I was going to use it on a particular yard and the customer called and said she did not want me to use it. She had found some info on the web about it and decided it was not "organic". There are some articles on the web about Milorganite and other similar products warning about heavy metal content. Here's a couple of links:
http://ce.ecn.purdue.edu/~alleman/w3-class/456/article/milorganite.html
http://www.rfu.org/ws95.htm#Sludge Happens
Last year, the new bags of Milorganite had a new message printed on them. It said "For information on heavy metal content, see http://www.wa.gov/agr/ "
I checked the link and found that the state of Washington has a giant database of all commercial fertilizers. Any such products used in the state have to be registered and tested. But I did not find Milorganite listed. I wrote to them and they said "thank you for pointing out a memory problem in our database". Months later it was still not fixed. I just now went to check again and Milorganite appears in the database. Also the URL is changed.
http://agr.wa.gov/PestFert/Fertilizers/ProductDatabase.htm
Here is some info on Milorganite from the database:
(this is parts per million of the heavy metals)
Arsenic 7.2
Cadmium 6.1
Cobalt 5.4
Mercury 2.7
Molybdenum 15
Nickel 40
Lead 120
Selenium 5.8
Zinc 760
I have no idea what these numbers mean, as far as whether those are significant amounts. I'm not sure if the the website has info on this. And I have not compared other ferts in the database.
Milorganite has a website here:
http://www.milorganite.org
They basically say there that Milorganite is totally safe and meets the highest standards, etc. I will post some info from their site in a separate post following this one.
The local organic gardening store will not carry Milorganite. He says there are issues with heavy metals. But he will order if for me. I find it at most of the local nurseries. I get it at a feed store.
I discovered last year that there is the regular Milorganite in 40lb bags and Milorganite Greens Grade in 50lb bags. The greens grade is the same stuff but in smaller pellets and a larger bag. I prefer that, but it is not as widely available.
I have noted that a fresh application of Milorganite can be a bit smelly when it is wet. This goes away in a few days, but some people don't like it. Most people would not even notice it. This is kind of a sewage smell.
I have also had people tell me that their dogs like it. They may try to eat it. I have also seen pansies dug up by dogs after I put a tiny bit of Milorganite around each plant.
Although Milorganite is made from sewage sludge, the composting process should make it into just compost with no odor. Compost should not have an odor. But I think they interupt the composting process so it is only partially composted. And then they cook it to kill pathogens.
I had one customer (a biologist) tell me she did not want it on her yard because there may be pathogens in it.
When I tell people I want to use Milorganite on their yard, I usually ask "have you ever heard of it?". They usually say no. I tell them it has been made for over 75 years and is the most popular organic fertilizer. I sometimes say Milorganite comes from Milwaukee and means Milwaukee Organic Nitrogen. Depends on the customer, but I usually don't volunteer that it is sewage sludge unless they ask more about it. That does gross some people out. Most people trust me - if I say its OK, then they have no problem with it.
I continue to have mixed feelings about Milorganite. I do use it and think that it is a good lawn fertilizer. I am not sure that it is as non-toxic as they say. I'm sure there are many organic fertilizers that are "cleaner", but so far I'm not finding convenient sources for anything as affordable as Milorganite. I am still experimenting with other organic ferts. I don't have the volume of business or the controlled conditions over a period of time to be able to comment on how well Milorganite works.
I sometimes apply ferts by hand from a bucket. Most stuff I have used has a good smell to it. The Milorganite does have an odd odor and I sometimes notice a weird feeling in my throat after breathing it.
I think its OK to use as an organic fert, but I am hoping to move away from it. Just a matter of finding or making something that is
comparable in price.
Would be good to hear other people's comments....
"I am offering organic fertilizer programs this yr with 3 of the apps being Milorganite. Can you please relate your experience with this product. Tell me everything but include whether or not customers asked you what was in it and if they were "grossed out" when they found out. ty very much !"
I started using Milorganite a couple of years ago since it is a pretty cheap organic fertilizer. Other bagged organic ferts that I have seen are $20 or more per bag. Milorganite is about $10 for a 40LB bag or $13 for a 50lb bag. I have heard many things about it. I have seen comments on Lawnsite such as "I think Milorganite is the best lawn fertilizer you can buy". I once heard someone say "It will green up a lawn overnight".
I was going to use it on a particular yard and the customer called and said she did not want me to use it. She had found some info on the web about it and decided it was not "organic". There are some articles on the web about Milorganite and other similar products warning about heavy metal content. Here's a couple of links:
http://ce.ecn.purdue.edu/~alleman/w3-class/456/article/milorganite.html
http://www.rfu.org/ws95.htm#Sludge Happens
Last year, the new bags of Milorganite had a new message printed on them. It said "For information on heavy metal content, see http://www.wa.gov/agr/ "
I checked the link and found that the state of Washington has a giant database of all commercial fertilizers. Any such products used in the state have to be registered and tested. But I did not find Milorganite listed. I wrote to them and they said "thank you for pointing out a memory problem in our database". Months later it was still not fixed. I just now went to check again and Milorganite appears in the database. Also the URL is changed.
http://agr.wa.gov/PestFert/Fertilizers/ProductDatabase.htm
Here is some info on Milorganite from the database:
(this is parts per million of the heavy metals)
Arsenic 7.2
Cadmium 6.1
Cobalt 5.4
Mercury 2.7
Molybdenum 15
Nickel 40
Lead 120
Selenium 5.8
Zinc 760
I have no idea what these numbers mean, as far as whether those are significant amounts. I'm not sure if the the website has info on this. And I have not compared other ferts in the database.
Milorganite has a website here:
http://www.milorganite.org
They basically say there that Milorganite is totally safe and meets the highest standards, etc. I will post some info from their site in a separate post following this one.
The local organic gardening store will not carry Milorganite. He says there are issues with heavy metals. But he will order if for me. I find it at most of the local nurseries. I get it at a feed store.
I discovered last year that there is the regular Milorganite in 40lb bags and Milorganite Greens Grade in 50lb bags. The greens grade is the same stuff but in smaller pellets and a larger bag. I prefer that, but it is not as widely available.
I have noted that a fresh application of Milorganite can be a bit smelly when it is wet. This goes away in a few days, but some people don't like it. Most people would not even notice it. This is kind of a sewage smell.
I have also had people tell me that their dogs like it. They may try to eat it. I have also seen pansies dug up by dogs after I put a tiny bit of Milorganite around each plant.
Although Milorganite is made from sewage sludge, the composting process should make it into just compost with no odor. Compost should not have an odor. But I think they interupt the composting process so it is only partially composted. And then they cook it to kill pathogens.
I had one customer (a biologist) tell me she did not want it on her yard because there may be pathogens in it.
When I tell people I want to use Milorganite on their yard, I usually ask "have you ever heard of it?". They usually say no. I tell them it has been made for over 75 years and is the most popular organic fertilizer. I sometimes say Milorganite comes from Milwaukee and means Milwaukee Organic Nitrogen. Depends on the customer, but I usually don't volunteer that it is sewage sludge unless they ask more about it. That does gross some people out. Most people trust me - if I say its OK, then they have no problem with it.
I continue to have mixed feelings about Milorganite. I do use it and think that it is a good lawn fertilizer. I am not sure that it is as non-toxic as they say. I'm sure there are many organic fertilizers that are "cleaner", but so far I'm not finding convenient sources for anything as affordable as Milorganite. I am still experimenting with other organic ferts. I don't have the volume of business or the controlled conditions over a period of time to be able to comment on how well Milorganite works.
I sometimes apply ferts by hand from a bucket. Most stuff I have used has a good smell to it. The Milorganite does have an odd odor and I sometimes notice a weird feeling in my throat after breathing it.
I think its OK to use as an organic fert, but I am hoping to move away from it. Just a matter of finding or making something that is
comparable in price.
Would be good to hear other people's comments....