Does anyone know who builds these units? Pricey units, but if worth it.... The bar seems odd to me and a possible/likely problem area to be sure. To make it strong enough to be viable, it would have to be a very stout (read very heavy) bar. Mounting point closest to the pivot point on the deck would seemingly need to be heavily reinforced as well. 135lbs listed weight.
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New Stihl Gas Push Mowers?
Does anyone know who builds these units? Pricey units, but if worth it.... The bar seems odd to me and a possible/likely problem area to be sure. To make it strong enough to be viable, it would have to be a very stout (read very heavy) bar. Mounting point closest to the pivot point on the deck would seemingly need to be heavily reinforced as well. 135lbs listed weight.
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Looks like maybe Stihl and Briggs and Stratton have an agreement? At least for Stihl’s zero turns. From the picture, the gasoline engine is a Briggs. Here’s a link for the announcement,
Engine is a Kohler CV200. Ferris makes the Stihl ZTR's. Ferris was bought by Simplicity and Briggs bought Simplicity. Ferris doesn't make push mowers that I'm aware of and since this utilizes a Kohler, I presumed another manufacturer is at play here.
Be interested to see the transmission. Says hydrostatic.
It's difficult for manufacturers to make a great push mower without it being heavy and expensive.
It's difficult for manufacturers to make a great push mower without it being heavy and expensive.
That's why I'll keep buying old Toro SR4 mowers as I find them on Craigslist.
Simple, light, durable enough for my needs, and easy to repair if needed.
I'll pay $350 for a reliable used mower any day over the high-priced push mowers they all offer these days.
Simple, light, durable enough for my needs, and easy to repair if needed.
I'll pay $350 for a reliable used mower any day over the high-priced push mowers they all offer these days.
Pole handle looks stupid. The deck liner thing was done by Ybravo first for their Gen 2/21”s. It’s a plastic insert to reduce sticking
personally won’t buy push mowers over 120lbs. Over that, manhandling them around small push mower lawns for extended periods gets old fast as do mowing ditches and slopes.
At least they used the right engine. CV173 too weak, CV224 more than most need. CV200 just right. Too bad unit is stupid heavy
personally won’t buy push mowers over 120lbs. Over that, manhandling them around small push mower lawns for extended periods gets old fast as do mowing ditches and slopes.
At least they used the right engine. CV173 too weak, CV224 more than most need. CV200 just right. Too bad unit is stupid heavy
Actually Turf, the deck insert serves two purposes, anti-sticking as you stated and preventing your deck from getting sand blasted in sandy soils which cuts holes in your deck.
Don’t bag. Just mulch. But used to bag years ago and pulling off a rear bag behind twin handles was never a challenge.
dont forget, this mower is from the same company that brought us this 34lb BP blower that Costs 3X More than BR800 and Has Power of BR420
dont forget, this mower is from the same company that brought us this 34lb BP blower that Costs 3X More than BR800 and Has Power of BR420
I have Toro/Suzuki Prolines from the late 90's that still got backup use up to a couple yrs ago. Finally junked them. Basic engine parts getting pricey to ship. The frame and deck and trans holding strong. Some minor repairs & wheel assemblies needed some parts but thats it
They ran hard 4-6 hrs daily in season for 20plus yrs
They ran hard 4-6 hrs daily in season for 20plus yrs
I give Stihl some credit, despite the stupid single handle and excessive weight, they did put some $$$ into a gas mower instead of another idiotic battery tool like their 34lb bp blower that has the power of a br400, costs 3X more than a BR800, and after 50min of WOT needs a $2k batt swap.
Hopefully, they realize now that tools like commercial mowers and blowers are not suitable vessels for the current batt tech.
Hopefully, they realize now that tools like commercial mowers and blowers are not suitable vessels for the current batt tech.
Too heavy?? Maybe for you it might be, but I suspect there are plenty of men around who can handle these mowers just fine... 
And let me introduce you to Hans and Franz, maybe they can help to pump you up!!
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And let me introduce you to Hans and Franz, maybe they can help to pump you up!!
You want to lug dead weight, go nuts.
Guys running lighter mowers whip them around push mower lawns faster and move quicker. . Don’t matter how muscle manly you are. You going to move faster with less weight.
back in the 2stroke days, commercial push were 80-90lbs. Now I’m lucky if I can find 112lb Toeo 22290’s. Anything over 120 forget it.
funny thing is the weightlifter gym rat types are the slowest with heavy mowers. Delicate souls who need a protein fix every half hr and scared of disrupting their muscle symmetry if they overextend. Also first to the truck when rain starts.
Guys running lighter mowers whip them around push mower lawns faster and move quicker. . Don’t matter how muscle manly you are. You going to move faster with less weight.
back in the 2stroke days, commercial push were 80-90lbs. Now I’m lucky if I can find 112lb Toeo 22290’s. Anything over 120 forget it.
funny thing is the weightlifter gym rat types are the slowest with heavy mowers. Delicate souls who need a protein fix every half hr and scared of disrupting their muscle symmetry if they overextend. Also first to the truck when rain starts.
Spend a lot of time with those guys, do ya?? Delicate huh?? Says the sensitive lil guy who needs the featherweight mowers...
All joking aside, I can see in an urban environment with steep hills, steps etc. where a lightweight mower would come in handy. Around the flat lands of central Illinois suburbs that isn't a consideration and a 130 or 135lb mower is no big deal and not a detriment whatsoever. I suspect we're operating in polar opposite conditions.
All joking aside, I can see in an urban environment with steep hills, steps etc. where a lightweight mower would come in handy. Around the flat lands of central Illinois suburbs that isn't a consideration and a 130 or 135lb mower is no big deal and not a detriment whatsoever. I suspect we're operating in polar opposite conditions.
Pure work ethic and output I’ll take the beer bellied redneck type over gym rat muscle mutts. Even the doped out homies are usually a safer pick.
Sounds like I’d put a 36 tracer where you put push then. Push only used on very small, heavily landscaped over irrigated turf.
if you don’t have to turn or pivot every 5-10 seconds we likely using hydro Walks.
Sounds like I’d put a 36 tracer where you put push then. Push only used on very small, heavily landscaped over irrigated turf.
if you don’t have to turn or pivot every 5-10 seconds we likely using hydro Walks.
Please don't confuse me with your dreams of putting your 36 where I "push then"... You convinced me years ago you're a legend in your own mind, no need to oversell....
To be clear, I rarely EVER use a 21 other than trim work. If I can't use my 34, I don't take it.
Evidently your beer bellied redneck types must be girlie men if they can't handle a wee lil mower... And those "doped out homies" must do fantastic work for ya!!
Gym rat muscle mutts... that's a new one!!
I'm none of the above... I'm 6'3", 215lbs and can easily handle a 30" mower. The SFC30 with castors proved very easy to operate...but again, on flat midwestern lawns. Do I want to do that all day? Not at 63 years old! When I was 35 sure, no problem. I'd much rather go with a 36 stander if there's room these days!!
Still curious who builds manufacturers the Stihl gas push mowers....
To be clear, I rarely EVER use a 21 other than trim work. If I can't use my 34, I don't take it.
Evidently your beer bellied redneck types must be girlie men if they can't handle a wee lil mower... And those "doped out homies" must do fantastic work for ya!!
Gym rat muscle mutts... that's a new one!!
I'm none of the above... I'm 6'3", 215lbs and can easily handle a 30" mower. The SFC30 with castors proved very easy to operate...but again, on flat midwestern lawns. Do I want to do that all day? Not at 63 years old! When I was 35 sure, no problem. I'd much rather go with a 36 stander if there's room these days!!
Still curious who builds manufacturers the Stihl gas push mowers....
you rarely use a 21 push so dont care if its 130 plus lbs. Makes sense. Also not the likely candidate for dropping over 1k on a 21.
You got routes with 25 plus push mower lawns daily, you likely going to be amenable to dropping over $1k on push mowers with weight as a factor.
Muscle heads aint that smart either.
You got routes with 25 plus push mower lawns daily, you likely going to be amenable to dropping over $1k on push mowers with weight as a factor.
Muscle heads aint that smart either.
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