Looks good. Seems like an updated version of the 22290. Surprised that they did not opt for the larger cv200 engine.

 

Would have liked to see the 200. Prefer the Kohler but why toro went w/173 is baffling considering hrx has a 200 now.

Kohler has much more solid air filter arrangement than KAI Kaw and easier starts

 

what's the price point between this new mower and the honda with the 200?

 

The Honda w/200 is homeowner so less$$$. But not nearly as good as the gen 2 Toro commercials or the Toro SR’s

 

The Toro with the single sliding bail that you slide sideways has always been the preferred Toro 21 inch around here. Why that is, I have no idea. It's the model 22295 and 22297.

https://www.toro.com/en/professiona...ofessional-contractor/commercial-mowers/21-heavy-duty-kawasaki-zone-start-22297

 

Not much difference in torque between the Kohler CV173 and the Kawasaki FJ180 v

Kawasaki7.3 lbs/ft of torque)

Kohler (7.75 lbs/ft of torque)

I agree with Turf Tracer. Considering the Honda HRX has 200 cc, the cv200 makes more sense on the 21" toro commercial and the cv224 would be more applicable to the Turfmaster 30. Just for comparison, Toro has a 252 cc Loncin engine on their single stage 21" snowblower.

 

I have heard good things about the CV200 on the 30s, pretty much that and the new transmissions solved the majority of problems people had with the 30s here.

I have a theory. The 22290 has the regular FJ 180, and the 22297 and 22298 have the KAI, so maybe Toro will have the cv173 on the 22287 and eventually release versions with the blade clutch and 3 speed transmissions with the CV200 on it...Keep in mind this is just ONE model they came out with so far. I can see this being a "Fleet" model for fleet customers who have turfmasters with the CV200 on it....

Either way, this mower is on my list

 

I like your theory. Maybe it's their way of phasing out the Kawasaki versions. This one they came out with replaces the 22290 and provides you with:
1. The big fuel tank.
2. The engine guard, which can double as a lift handle.
That gives you a few extra features over the 22290.

I wonder what the list price on this is?

 

If my Snapper CRP218520 ever dies, I'm buying this.:nod:

 

I doubt they will replace the Kawi versions, people love the Kawi and Honda models here. If I recall correctly I remember back in the early 2000s Toro had the Suzuki, Kawasaki, Briggs Europa and Honda options on the 21s then, they had something like 15 different configurations for their 21s, it was pretty cool. Maybe they are trying just give people more options ?

 

Interesting to see new engines out there. Like my FJ180v but more torque is always welcome.

Would not want to be the first owner of this though.

 

You all know there’s motorcycles out there with 250cc
The bigger more engine craze keeps pushing things to stupid levels

I’m waiting for the turbo intercooled version of the 21” mower with twin cams that runs on race fuel

 

Just talked to a guy about the new 22287...

It will be replacing the 22290 Kawi version. But this seems a better value as it has the bigger tank, wear plates, and engine protector. They also premiered an electric commercial 21. I will be interested.

 

Not sure if the electric will sell, who wants to run out of battery. This is more of a homeowner thing