Certified applicators are assumed to already know this answer.

 

Very true Tremor.

 

My test asked nothing of the sort.

 

My test asked nothing of the sort.

Fool

Just because the test didn't ask that question, You don't have to know the Answer?????????????????????????

You Never read the word "Re-entry" on any pesticide Label????

Please use your Freaking common sense, If you have any.

 

Certified applicators are assumed to already know this answer.

i'm a certified applicatior and never remember being taught this while getting my license. my old boss used to say wait until it is dry. i say wait about 2-3 hours. have heard others say 5-10 minutes. so what is it tremor?

what about grub control? water it in then let it dry...then the pets and kids are allowed on it? i couldn't find anything on the label.

 

My personal opinion is that this is a VERY valid question. Not one to be slammed Ric.

I feel that label verbiage SHOULD be redesigned. Make it in plain(er), easier to read. Not that I have trouble with them, but I feel that some may be overwhelmed with the "big" words and hidden facts.

I read EVERYTHING on a label at least twice, and sometimes I find myself reading parts yet again when actually mixing the product. If all this "vanilla" info was all in one place on the label with easy to read verbiage, there would be far fewer problems.

 

The label is the law!
You must fully comply with everything on the label and must have the label with you when applying.

 

My personal opinion is that this is a VERY valid question. Not one to be slammed Ric.

I feel that label verbiage SHOULD be redesigned. Make it in plain(er), easier to read. Not that I have trouble with them, but I feel that some may be overwhelmed with the "big" words and hidden facts.

I read EVERYTHING on a label at least twice, and sometimes I find myself reading parts yet again when actually mixing the product. If all this "vanilla" info was all in one place on the label with easy to read verbiage, there would be far fewer problems.

TLS

Let me apologize, I forget that while Florida has the hardest Pesticide test and testing requirements, the rest of the nation buy their license at the local drug store.

Study Material for the Florida Test Includes SM001 "Applying Pesticides Safely" Re-entry Time is covered in that manual. Many of the Ag labels do have Re-enty Time listed for Field Groves and Nurseries. How ever products without re-entry times are considered safe upon being dry.

Now Every Applicator should be putting a Sign on each location he treats. That sign called a Pesticide warning sign, In All States, Says

STAY OFF UNTIL DRY​

 

Very true Ric, but what about granular? They go down dry.

On my flags, when I apply granular, I simply cross off "DRY" and write in "WATERED IN".

Saves a lot of confusion when the customer knows I apply granular and they read the flag and see reference to wet/dry.

 

The various states have their own property posting requirements. All that I've seen, sold or used said "24 HOURS".

Ric is correct that all labels contain "worker re-entry" language.

Case in point from the first label I pulled Dylox 6.2G

"ENTRY RESTRICTIONS

Do not allow people or pets to enter treated area (except those involved in watering) until the watering-in is complete and the surface is dry. On golf courses, the treated area must not be entered (except by those involved in the watering) until the watering-in is complete and the surface is dry"

Since it was LESCO who was alleged to not be covering this aspect of labeling I checked their Threeway Selective label:

"Do not allow people (other than applicator) or pets on treatment area during application.
Do not enter treated areas until sprays have dried."

I stand by what I said. Certified applicators are ALL required to READ THE LABEL in EVERY state.

 

lmao, all labels have the concerned re-entry information

 

this is better than watchin cartoons

 

tremor,

I agree with that 3-way re-entry about being dry. But...a week later you can still smell it. The vapor is STILL there. There is still a pesticide exposure. But the lawn is dry. Does that mean a family with an infant can chill out at a picnic table while there's 3-way vapor floating about?

 

this is better than watchin cartoons

Ditto. Cartoons are great, but this is better (thanks). All one needs to do is follow the label. It's just that simple, and it will keep the state inspectors off your back. How 'bout dry products that don't get watered in for two months????? Does that mean you cannot walk on a lawn for two months?? I don't think so. In general, dry applications = "you can immediately walk on the lawn." Liquids = "Just wait 'til it's dry". That's it - simple but true. Customers new to lawn/tree care are often :usflag: confused by the pesticide signs. I explain to these people that the "sign" has NOTHING to do with application......It just means that you should not remove the "sign" for 24 hours. Weird, but true. You can thank the left-wingers for this.

 

This is why I just sit here and shake my head because I can not come up with a decent response. They print everything you need to know on the label and it is general read from left to right and top to bottom. If you have any other questions please don't ask them.

 

I'm sorry, but I can think of MANY more readable ways to print a label. Look at the back of any food and you'll see the results of an example of an improved label. Go back 20 years ago, and the difference is amazing. The FDA mandated these newer labels with all food information consistently printed.

I'm not saying there is a problem with the current verbiage....but saying there's no room for improvement with the current design is just crazy. As lawsuit conscience as this industry is, you would think that the label would be different.

 

I am concerned that the pesticide is not completly safe as well. I see a lot of ag re-entry times of 12 hours. I may start asking people to water in and let completley dry before getting on lawn. The label says it's safe but how many times have people been lied to just so that someone could make money.

 

How 'bout dry products that don't get watered in for two months????? Does that mean you cannot walk on a lawn for two months?? I don't think so. In general, dry applications = "you can immediately walk on the lawn."

I use a lot of the lesco 65%ppscu that I can see in many lawns 2 months later, and that is during wet season.

So what if little johny crawls through the yard 6 weeks after application and decides to eat the "candy pieces" in the yard.

 

I use a lot of the lesco 65%ppscu that I can see in many lawns 2 months later, and that is during wet season.

So what if little johny crawls through the yard 6 weeks after application and decides to eat the "candy pieces" in the yard.

I donno, little Johnny better have one heck of an appetite to eat enough 'candy pieces' to cause him any harm.

and the 65%ppscu you are seeing 2 months later during a wet season is probably just the carrier 'bead'

and Acts2:38 you should be concerned that pesticides are not completely safe. Thats why we read and follow the label.

And...lets not forget....water can be toxic but we should still drink one once of water for every 2 pounds of body weight

 

Say what? Is this a joke? Just follow the label.

 

The hilarity of the situation is making me bend over laughing so hard right now. The labeling is perfectly clear, people just tend to over analyze the label. Just read. If you can not do that make sure you go find your first grade teacher and give them a good ole a$$ kickin for not teaching you to read. That is my only reasonable solution at this point.

 

Good Post that made me think. If it was my child I would not want him or her to play in the yard until the pesticide has been thoroughly watered in and allowed to dry. So this is what I will start telling my customers. Thanks.

 

Good Post that made me think. If it was my child I would not want him or her to play in the yard until the pesticide has been thoroughly watered in and allowed to dry. So this is what I will start telling my customers. Thanks.

Good thinking. We always hand out sheets with recommendations when applying chemicals. One side is the MSDS, the other has re-entry guidelines and recommendations such as waiting 12-24 hours to mow after weed control was applied. As far as re-entry it states something like "Although the manufacturer says re-entry is allowed once the material is dry, we at _____ ____ recommend not playing or working in the lawn with bare hands or feet until the product is watered in and the lawn has dried."

It saves a bunch of phone calls and lets the customer know you care about them and their families well being.

 

Good thinking. We always hand out sheets with recommendations when applying chemicals. One side is the MSDS, the other has re-entry guidelines and recommendations such as waiting 12-24 hours to mow after weed control was applied. As far as re-entry it states something like "Although the manufacturer says re-entry is allowed once the material is dry, we at _____ ____ recommend not playing or working in the lawn with bare hands or feet until the product is watered in and the lawn has dried."

It saves a bunch of phone calls and lets the customer know you care about them and their families well being.

I agree with that. Even though some people here are "bending over laughing so hard" because we have different feelings about safety and re-entry.

 

We leave sheets that usually state do not enter for 24 hours or until watered in. Some products state do not enter until watered in.