Something is wrong if it 47 that hard to start. sounds like the choke needs adjustment or the carb offer cleaned. if you use a heat gun i would aim at the carb to heat it up.
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check you butterfly in the carb...

 

Thanks. Again tho I have a mechanic who does all my mower stuff I don't know what a butterfly or carb offer is. But I will try to ask him to check it out. Was hoping to save having to pay to get it looked at. But I will try to heat up the carb. Thanks!

 

make sure.... like seriously make sure there is no fuel leak before you put that on the carb, and you saylike 15 minutes like you would walk away from it? ..... here comes the booom!

 

and watch the rubber fuel lines.....

 

no i'd be hand holding the thing the whole time and I know not to get it that hot

 

Thanks. Again tho I have a mechanic who does all my mower stuff I don't know what a butterfly or carb offer is. But I will try to ask him to check it out. Was hoping to save having to pay to get it looked at. But I will try to heat up the carb. Thanks!

I had the same issue with my 25 kawai and ferris mower. ADJUST THE VALVES. Immedietly cured cold start up issues. If your mower is also turning over very slowly in the cold it could need a new starter. I adjusted my valves and the cold startup problem dissapeared. But the mower was still turning over slow in the cold. I replaced the starter and both problems soved. The dealer told me the starters begin to lose their cold start capabilities at around 500hrs. Good luck.

 

Something is wrong if it 47 that hard to start. sounds like the choke needs adjustment or the carb offer cleaned. if you use a heat gun i would aim at the carb to heat it up.
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Also the problem isnt a cold carb. Its cold engine oil and hydro oil. When i had that problem i would use a salamader heater and heat up the machine for a good hour before i even attempted to star it and that is inside an enclosed trailer.

 

Also the problem isnt a cold carb. Its cold engine oil and hydro oil. When i had that problem i would use a salamader heater and heat up the machine for a good hour before i even attempted to star it and that is inside an enclosed trailer.

agreed. heating the carb isn't going to do anything for you, its the oil that is cold and making it more difficult to start...the valves and starter may be the real problem but heating the oil should be enough to keep you going through the fall.

 

On my Ztr's Kawasaki I have to literally HOLD the choke button with one hand
while turning the key with the other, mostly because it won't stay full shut
but so long I hold that choke as far as it will come out, gtg.

Not sure if that's your fix but I thought I'd mention it, also I run 93 octane.

And...
It might just be one of them cold-natured things, too.
So good luck.

 

On my Ztr's Kawasaki I have to literally HOLD the choke button with one hand
while turning the key with the other, mostly because it won't stay full shut
but so long I hold that choke as far as it will come out, gtg.

Not sure if that's your fix but I thought I'd mention it, also I run 93 octane.

octane rating mean nothing. Your wasting your money. If your engine is not detonating with 87 then anything above that is just a waste. The foel is not any cleaner and has no other benefits. t also does not have an effect on cold start.

 

Starting a Zero turn when it's cold out

Howdy,
Is it cranking slow, or just won't fire?
Regards
Gregg

 

octane rating mean nothing. Your wasting your money. If your engine is not detonating with 87 then anything above that is just a waste. The foel is not any cleaner and has no other benefits. t also does not have an effect on cold start.

good answer.

 

octane rating mean nothing. Your wasting your money. If your engine is not detonating with 87 then anything above that is just a waste. The foel is not any cleaner and has no other benefits. t also does not have an effect on cold start.

Right on...and if anything, 93 could actually make it harder to start.
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I use my walker with a snow blower!!! Last year it was sooooo cold, like single digit cold w/o wind chill!:weightlifter:

On another note, my Navigator never has a problem starting up, but the hydro's are sure cold, almost stiff for a few minutes.

With both mowers I fire them up in my garage for a few minutes before I even move them when it gets chilly out.

 

You may want to keep a trickle charger on the mower as well.
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octane rating mean nothing. Your wasting your money. If your engine is not detonating with 87 then anything above that is just a waste. The foel is not any cleaner and has no other benefits. t also does not have an effect on cold start.

All right wise guys, you're all so right, suit yourselves, mine starts.
All of mine start, every last one of my pieces of equipment.
Even ones that have sat for a year and longer.
Anytime, any day.
And IF one doesn't, I know it is NOT the fuel.

If 93 octane wasn't a better fuel then how come 87 is cheaper?
No, seriously, seeing how 93 and 87 is all the same, how come one costs so much more?
You wouldn't think they were ripping us off with this premium gasoline trick here, do you?
You don't per chance believe this high octane gasoline is just another conspiracy designed to suck money out of the foolish?
Do you?

 

Fine, suit yourselves, mine starts.

So does mine with 87.
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I have the same problem, slow cranking in cold weather, doesn't start. Had the valves adjusted two weeks ago, didn't fix it. Added a trickle charger, didn't fix it. I'm thinking a dip-stick warmer. Anyone think that’s a bad idea?

 

I have the same problem, slow cranking in cold weather, doesn't start. Had the valves adjusted two weeks ago, didn't fix it. Added a trickle charger, didn't fix it. I'm thinking a dip-stick warmer. Anyone think that’s a bad idea?

May try some synthetic oil. If that doesn't work try the stick warmer or a heat blanket...seriously I don't know why you are having probs, mine starts fine all the time...yes its slower when its cold, but it starts fine.
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Do you have a way to release the hydro pump pulleys? I know my hustler SWB has a chain loop on the side that disengages an idler pulley on the pump-engine belt. In the winter when I was playing around with a plow (more like having fun doing donuts on the ice...) It wouldnt start up if I didnt disengage the pumps. With the engine spinning free it started up just fine. Let it warm up on full throttle, drop it to half and gently engage the hydro pumps belt, spin those up, let everything warm up, and good to go. Its a lot of work for a cold engine to turn itself over, AND move cold, thick hydro oil through BOTH pumps, lose some of that load and you should see a difference

 

Old-school trick is to put a 100W light bulb under it overnight.

Never have a problem with any engine starting, including the V8, using that method.

 

Yeah I have been starting my Toro Z for two weeks now in the morning when it is like 35 out and it starts right up. With the proper choke, yours should fire.

 

All right wise guys, you're all so right, suit yourselves, mine starts.
All of mine start, every last one of my pieces of equipment.
Even ones that have sat for a year and longer.
Anytime, any day.
And IF one doesn't, I know it is NOT the fuel.

If 93 octane wasn't a better fuel then how come 87 is cheaper?
No, seriously, seeing how 93 and 87 is all the same, how come one costs so much more?
You wouldn't think they were ripping us off with this premium gasoline trick here, do you?
You don't per chance believe this high octane gasoline is just another conspiracy designed to suck money out of the foolish?
Do you?

Yes, there has been plenty of research done on this matter over the years to prove that premium gas does not have a significant improvment over regular. Consumer Reports has it's scientist for example do a study on this each year and publishes it.

If you are buying premium, unless your engine manufacturer specifically states it MUST be used, you are wasting you money. Do you really believe that Shell gasonline has special detergents in it that others do not? All the oil comes from the same place - goes to the same refineries, and then is shipped to all the gas stations, there is no special brand or formula out there Topsites, if you believe otherwise, you have fell under a marketing spell.