I just took on a new client and since I usually take on new lawns early in the season, they are usually looking pretty good at this time of year. I want to get a jump on the weeds but don’t want to do something that will hurt it rather than help. I am planning on broadcast spraying Celsius and spot spraying the sedge with Sedgehammer. I also have MSM I can hit it with if it cools down a little more. I’m in south east GA and temps have been 85-75ish lately. Thanks
DrainageHelp
I'd still blanket with Celsius + Certainty or Sedgehammer together.
Spurge, I still tend to spot spray, as MSM won't do it alone without QS. QS + MSM smokes it good but QS and surfactants don't always go so well in the heat.
Spurge, I still tend to spot spray, as MSM won't do it alone without QS. QS + MSM smokes it good but QS and surfactants don't always go so well in the heat.
I have had good luck with surfactant, Quicksilver, surfactant and Trimec on Spurge. Could you describe what happened to discourage Quicksilver and surfactant in hot weather?
Did you use a high-quality surfactant? At a high ratio in the tank?
What type of grass?
How hot is hot in your town?
Did you use a high-quality surfactant? At a high ratio in the tank?
What type of grass?
How hot is hot in your town?
Thanks for the responses. RigglePLC you mention using a high quality Surfactant. I know using a Surfactant is a must with certain chemicals but can you tell a big difference with high quality versus “as cheap as you can find it”?
Drainagehelp--now that is a good question!
What surfactant is best?
Is it worth paying a bit more?
Does the herbicide already include a surfactant?
No one knows--or at least they are not saying it out loud.
Myself, I prefer a silicone type.
Most surfactants really help kill oxalis. They seem to attack the waxy leaves.
I suspect that if surfactants otherwise improved the herbicide effectiveness--then--their advertising would show this. You would see side by side tests, with data and photographs.
So shop around, consult the web, ask the salesman for proof.
I will be right back.
I am testing a product on spurge this week--but spurge is old and tough at this time of year.
What surfactant is best?
Is it worth paying a bit more?
Does the herbicide already include a surfactant?
No one knows--or at least they are not saying it out loud.
Myself, I prefer a silicone type.
Most surfactants really help kill oxalis. They seem to attack the waxy leaves.
I suspect that if surfactants otherwise improved the herbicide effectiveness--then--their advertising would show this. You would see side by side tests, with data and photographs.
So shop around, consult the web, ask the salesman for proof.
I will be right back.
I am testing a product on spurge this week--but spurge is old and tough at this time of year.
Cannot add to my post. Cannot find the "edit" feature.
I do, of course, agree with the use of surfactants on nutsedge.
I think the slick vertical leaf blades would shed too much of any herbicide (like Sedgehammer.)
Same idea applies to wild garlic in spring.
Surfactants are cheap in a backpack or hand sprayer. An ounce per gallon. In a 200 gallon tank--not so much.
I would like to see data as to what percent a particular surfactant improves weed control.
Without data you might as well use the cheapest.
There--the edit feature works OK if you are quick about it.
You can get an idea of how the herbicide spray solution wets the leaf surface by spraying a slick surface--a plastic dumpster or truck fender for instance.
I do, of course, agree with the use of surfactants on nutsedge.
I think the slick vertical leaf blades would shed too much of any herbicide (like Sedgehammer.)
Same idea applies to wild garlic in spring.
Surfactants are cheap in a backpack or hand sprayer. An ounce per gallon. In a 200 gallon tank--not so much.
I would like to see data as to what percent a particular surfactant improves weed control.
Without data you might as well use the cheapest.
There--the edit feature works OK if you are quick about it.
You can get an idea of how the herbicide spray solution wets the leaf surface by spraying a slick surface--a plastic dumpster or truck fender for instance.
Be careful with surfactants on Bermuda lawns this time of year. Easy to injure them when spraying weeds in hot weather.
Surfactants (in theory) help to overcome the waxy leaf surface.
Fine --now--which weeds have a waxy leaf surface?
Is there a secret list?
Certain weeds do not need a surfactant?
Certain weeds that definitely need surfactant?
By what percent will weed control be increased?
Fine --now--which weeds have a waxy leaf surface?
Is there a secret list?
Certain weeds do not need a surfactant?
Certain weeds that definitely need surfactant?
By what percent will weed control be increased?
I think Quicksilver might still work.
Actually I tested Speedzone plus T-Zone on spurge, late in the year--and got fairly good results.
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I suggest adding surfactant--probably helps wet the spurge better.
Actually I tested Speedzone plus T-Zone on spurge, late in the year--and got fairly good results.
spurge vs herbicides
I tested four herbicides and various combinations. I tested on a parking lot where spurge was growing in the cracks. T-Zone and combinations including T-Zone appeared to be most effective, particularly when combined with Speedzone, (last photo). Speedzone and Quicksilver Surge T-Zone...
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I suggest adding surfactant--probably helps wet the spurge better.
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