Weed and Feed, is for HOs that think ferts and pre-m, goes together. The stuff never works adequately, and you certainly don't want "Weed Control" this time of year when seeding... Broadleaf, is coming up later, but pre-m is stupid, @ this point.

 

Apply junk your lawns, and in return you will get junk lawns. I'd be curious to see the analysis.

 

its still a good price for straight fert. Depending on the amount of time relesed fert its a pretty good deal. I agree pros can't really use it for weed control.

 

They also might be unloading their inventory for the winter.

In Il, they eliminated phosphorus in fert mixes, so anyone who has the old ferts are trying to sell them cheap right now too.

 

Sweet deal, thanks, Jhole19!
28-0-4 for 15,000 sqft, $8.99, that is only 59 cents per thousand. Ideal for fall. I hope it is 50 percent slow release, (or at least 30 percent). Better than Scotts turfbuilder, I hope. A good bet for fall germinating dandelions and winter annuals.

If there is any left, LOL!

 

I was at Lowes last night and noticed the Weed and Feed sale. It was $8.99. They also had 15,000sqft bags of Pennington 29-0-5 fertilizer for $10.79. regular price was over $30. Seems like a decent deal for anyone that just needs to get some nitrogen down.

Does this stuff have a shelf life? I thought about getting a few bags for next spring/summer

 

I was at Lowes last night and noticed the Weed and Feed sale. It was $8.99. They also had 15,000sqft bags of Pennington 29-0-5 fertilizer for $10.79. regular price was over $30. Seems like a decent deal for anyone that just needs to get some nitrogen down.

Does this stuff have a shelf life? I thought about getting a few bags for next spring/summer

As long as the bag stays sealed and in a relatively dry place, you should be OK to store it over the winter.

I have extra 5 gallon buckets with lids I use to store extra fert when I need to. Seems to work pretty good.

 

I looked at the fert when at Lowe's yesterday. Not worth the money even on sale. Junk

 

I was in Lowes--I actually also ran into the Scotts regional salesman.
However, the bargain fertilizer had been already sold. Lowes guy said they are changing the brand name on the bags to "Sta Green". So had to get rid of older bags.
The Scotts fertilizer had about 25 percent of nitrogen as slow release. The Pennington brand about 20 percent as slow release.

The Scotts salesman said they had Major League Baseball seed for five stadiums and more deals to come. But to get it you have to go to the local area near the city of the stadium.

 

I looked at the fert when at Lowe's yesterday. Not worth the money even on sale. Junk

Not being a fertilizer expert how I can look at a bag and determine that it's junk?

 

It's cheap crap out of China. As in all things:

YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR!!

Why can they afford to sell it cheap?? 'Cause its junk

 

What makes fertilizer, quality or junk?

Does the N, in junk, not feed N to the plants?
Does junk N, leach or evaporate too quickly?
Does the junk, contain mostly salts?

Get what you pay for, or pay for brand name advertising?

 

Hey J
Did we meet in vegas last week? our pro line and retail line have just been picked up by you guys nationally for 2011

They must be making room for our line

I don't personally use the stuff, I happen to have an inside track with a manufacturer HEE HEE

 

What makes fertilizer, quality or junk?

Does the N, in junk, not feed N to the plants?
Does junk N, leach or evaporate too quickly?
Does the junk, contain mostly salts?

Get what you pay for, or pay for brand name advertising?

I looked at it, it was 3.something% slow release on the bags that were on sale. Mabye ok for a fall application, if you can get past the moral issue of applying herbicides along with your fert when you don't need it. (I can't)

 

I looked at it, it was 3.something% slow release on the bags that were on sale. Mabye ok for a fall application, if you can get past the moral issue of applying herbicides along with your fert when you don't need it. (I can't)

Beyond the moral issue, even broadleaf, messes with overseeding to some extent, and others will put down pre-m in the fall.
Instant release just means less at a time. Slow release winterizer, means it will feed, or be lost all winter, and big rush in the spring.

Pros, shouldn't be dumping them together, because the weed and feed, doesn't really have the same time table. At least, in cool season lawns. Scott's was marketted for HOs.

 

our pro line and retail line have just been picked up by you guys nationally for 2011

They must be making room for our line

Great, what does that mean for the pros that use your products now that it is available to the homeowner at the local big box store in BOTH "pro" and "retail" line....????

 

Beyond the moral issue, even broadleaf, messes with overseeding to some extent, and others will put down pre-m in the fall.
Instant release just means less at a time. Slow release winterizer, means it will feed, or be lost all winter, and big rush in the spring.

Pros, shouldn't be dumping them together, because the weed and feed, doesn't really have the same time table. At least, in cool season lawns. Scott's was marketted for HOs.

I'm not sure if your backing me up or not on the slow release issue?

3% slow release is negligible. Thats why I said it would be OK for a fall application if you could get past the weed and feed. I understand what you are saying about the weed control affecting the seeding, but you would just simply not apply them within a couple of weeks together.

If the lawns needed some broadleaf control, I would say theres nothing wrong with using it for your last round, but only your last round. If the lawn has just a few weeds that would require spot spraying, I would not use it, thats not good IPM.

I know I kind of bashed the stuff at first, but for the scenario i listed above, I think its doable, for any other round but your last, forget about it.

 

I put down slowrelease pellets one year on a couple of places. Turned out to be late Oct. when it was done. I figured if we should be able to 'winterize' up to Thanksgiving time, I could give it a try. The pellets were still there the following spring and finally disappeared after the spring showers thing.

I have no idea what the ferts did for the turf over winter, but it didn't seem to do much. I'll put some down now, because I have it lying around, but would rather use regular release in early Oct. as a winterizer.

I agree, that you could use the stuff on the last round, because the plants are really working to store up for the winter. That process I believe will be starting soon, as we approach the first frost and shortened days. Right now it is actively growing, esp with all this rain.

 

Great, what does that mean for the pros that use your products now that it is available to the homeowner at the local big box store in BOTH "pro" and "retail" line....????

The pro line will not be available for retail, too much area covered for Harry Homeowner and a little too complicated, wrong price point

It means that the pro line will be in stock at central garden and pet and pennington seed warehouses for pick up or delivery

You can see the retail line here, they are all hose end sprayers that treat 16,000 sq ft and have a price point under $25
www.EarthHarvestOrganics.com

 

I don't see any refutable replies from JHole............?
Is this thread another potential argument starting bait switch?
I was a employee at Lowe's......12+ years ago during the winter hard time months. I was sent around the state as their live nursery specialist for 5 areas that didn't have nurseries. Store 414 is one of them. They still don't.!!!! Anyway, I met most of the distributor's, district manager's, all the big-whigs that were in control of the staging concepts and store politics for my region. Then there was implications of sell products that would yield large ticket sales. ( Meaning-Each customer was targeted to purchase 100.00 or more per stop.) Colorful labels...........colorful packaging..........informative labels..or simpler term labels were printed for ease. Seed packages all were changed, plant identification was changed, herbicide labels were altered, insecticide labels...just the same. ( This is something after I quit--That I noticed from a seed VENDOR!!)
There was a few dozen bags of Pennington Seeds--50# bags under the shelf, and he was replacing the dated area with a new super adhesive sticker with a totally new date.
I don't know there business but when the bag of seeds is so called out of date, then don't alter the packaging date.!!!!!!

You get what you pay for!!!!!

 

I looked at the fertilizer.

29 N and 6.8% from slow release so I guess that is 23% slow release compared to the Scotts turf builder which was 32N with that is 10% slow release so about 33%.

The difference I saw from the packaging was the stuff on clearance says slow release because of sulfur coating and Scott's had a mixture of chemicals to provide their slow release.