Yes

 

Is there any research to back this up? Thanks.

 

Yes

And also experience and testimonials.

 

I already bought it, so going with it. But......I have used the walmart synthetic or universal for ages and never had an issue. So, it a little tough to swallow. The walmart motor oil is just as good as the name brands. That has been proven with oil analysis. But, I already bought it and at $700 for a 9010 back pack, I really don't feel like having an issue.

 

The walmart motor oil is just as good as the name brands. That has been proven with oil analysis.

Only oil analysis done by Walmart would say that. It certainly is not as good of oil.

I’m not going to waste a bunch of time typing trying to sway your opinion. You obviously think that the el cheap oil is good and don’t want to switch. As a professional mechanic, I can tell you for certain that not all oil is created equal. Believe it, don’t believe it, it’s no skin off my nose either way.

Just run the red oil and see for yourself. No real need for anyone’s opinion.

 

$75 a gallon an 50:1 mix. Get Amsoil. It is a 100:1 mix an only cost $52.19 a gallon.

 

Neither one of us is interested in a pissing match. I was just hoping for something more than testimonial. For the record, on the lubrication discussion forums, Walmart oil analysis is as good as big name, so is Kirkland. I am sure you know Walmart doesn't make oil. There are plenty of lab test oil analysis showing the motor oil is good.
Just wondering if there was any hard data. If you don't have any, no biggie. Maybe someone else does. But, I do thank you for your opinion.

 

I buy the mix oil at Walmart at end of season when it's 50% off or more.
Synthetic, blend - whatever is cheapest.

That said, I don't run stuff hard - I'm a solo guy, and I have been primarily using cordless handhelds for the last 8 years.
The only thing I use mix fuel for regularly is my backpack blower - which isn't used much.
My Stihl string trimmer is now my backup, so it's not used much either.

I have 5 of those squeezy measurement bottles. Those will probably last me for 4 years.

 

It’s been a minute, but an ex girl friend was a buyer for wal mart. I believe she said the wal mart super tech stuff was bottled by pennzoil or Quaker state, this was 2007, so who knows now.

 

How much revenue is 51 gallons of 2 stroke fuel generating for you? Is an extra $35 or so really a big deal at that point?

 

How did the piston get scored?

If you think the Wally World oil is as good, and you’re using it in everything else, who cares what your dealer said about any other oils. Why not just return the Red Stuff and use the Wally - save some cash?

But if you’re gonna keep the Red, what’s the plan going forward then with all the other 2 cycle stuff? Wally or Red? 2 cans or 1 ?

 

Price vs cost

On top of that, I don't buy from WallyWorld out of principle. Between supporting the ChiComs and the way they deal with vendors, I want nothing to do with them.

PS Have you ever heard the saying about getting what you pay for?

 

My plan is to likely to run the Red Armor for now. When I have more time, I will post the same question on a lubrication forum and see if anybody has empirical data. I have heard about getting what you pay for and I have also heard about being a sucker and falling for marketing and name brand items. Not all name brand items live up to the hype. Thanks.

 

Looks like the proof is in the pudding. Did not you say you scored a cylinder using Walmart oil?$ Can of Corn.

 

Can't go by that in this case. There are plenty of smoked 8010 blowers that ran good oil. I researched that already. The first run had engine issues. I use the same mix on various machines.

 

When he suggested you use the red armor did he say less or none have come in that ran it or more that ran other oils burned up?

Are you sure you only ran the proper mix and couldn't have gotten straight gassed?

What about the carb tuning?

 

Bin running my mixture at 80:1 to 90:1 mix it myself so it varies. Ten years no oil issues.

 

I usually do 1.5gal gas per bottle, so I end up around 75:1

 

Synthetic oil is just more refined. So probably better to breath in than conventional oil. Just me random thought.

 

Hmmm seems like earth's natural oils would be more healthy than man made

 

Sorry to hear about the blower! I’m glad Echo made it right. 25 years ago I started with Stihl no big problems but for the last 10 years it’s been Echo all the way. Several SRM225’s, hedge trimmer, stick edger, PB265, 580, 770, 9010. We did have 4 BR400 and they were great.
The red armor is way better oil. I used super tech for years and started red armor a few years ago. I had a few old pieces that ran bad and just thought it’s old but a tank or two of red armor cleaned them up. Stay with the better oil!

 

Ive been using lucas semi-synthetic 2 cycle oil for years now at 50:1 in all my 2 stroke engines with no problems. Its around $35 a gallon now on amazon, best deal I've found for a quality 2 stroke oil (also a better deal than any store brand/generic 2 stroke oil I've priced for that matter) and I don't think any dealer would blame it for causing a problem as lucas is a well respected brand.

 

I am going to run the Red Armor for a while. I bought a gallon. I am very pleased with echo for standing behind the product. The new 9010 blows so damn well that I will likely not be using my old heavy metal Giant Vac 11hp Briggs blower this year. I was using our Redmax 8550 next to my son, who was running the new 9010 and there is NO COMPARISON. Holy crap this thing is powerful. What I also notice is that my ears are not ringing after I use it. The 8010 was causing my ears to ring and I was going to put foamy ear plugs in, under my ear muffs. But...... the motor didn't last. So....maybe it was over revving. Who knows. The good news is that they stood behind it.

 

Since Amsoil is so great (according to some people) , why stop at 100:1? Why not 150:1 or 200:1 ratio?
Golden Spectro is really good 2-stroke oil for dirt bikes and quads, and I mix it 32:1 for example in my Yamaha Banshee. The service manual calls for 32:1. The thought never crossed my mind that because Golden Spectro is so good, that I should mix it at 100:1. Wonder how long it would take to ruin the cylinder, pistons, and rings doing this?

 

Amsoil is rated to mix 100:1, the oil manufacturer does not recommend running it any higher.

 

Wonder if the engine manufacturer would see it that way? I’m betting they wouldn’t.

 

Pretty sure if a company like Stihl or Echo denied a warranty due to the oil/mixture Amsoil would 100% back their product. Mainly because Stihl or Echo would be laying that the fuel mixture was the cause of the failure.

 

So, what’s going to happen when you mix Amsoil at 50:1?

 

Waste of money an lack of performance.

 

So it will run worse?

 

But probably a better smell of burning pencils.

 

nothing sounds fast about putting a lot of oil in your gas?