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Discussion starter · #21 ·
well they finally got their act together and figured out what they wanted. They are applying for grant money from the county so the county provided these plans. they will also come out to inspect the project and if it is not to their specs they don't pay out. the two maps join they are on the north and south sides of a road. any thoughts?
 

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How are you going to cross the road ? If a public road a permit will probably be required, which means that portion of the work will be subject to inspection. Surety bond to cover any damage to the road whether you bore or do an open cut may be required as part of the permit process.
 
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the irrigator said:
How are you going to cross the road ? If a public road a permit will probably be required, which means that portion of the work will be subject to inspection. Surety bond to cover any damage to the road whether you bore or do an open cut may be required as part of the permit process.
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There is an existing steel sleeve under the road
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Mike Leary said:
What specs? This is our favorite County in the NE to bash, after all. :hammerhead: Unless there is some paperwork we've not seen, they've taken "design/build" to a whole new level! :dizzy:
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There is more paper work that has not yet been forwarded to me as the county employee in charge is on vacation, typical.
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well they finally pulled the trigger on part of this project. we will be installing the north side of the system this fall. It will be 2000' of 6" and 1200' of 4". should be a nice job for the end of the year between blow outs.

speaking of blow outs someone needs to start a winterizing thread for this year.
 
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I have a 4" reed pipe puller i will sell for $325 shipped. It runs about a grand new. I finished my 4" gasketed main job and probably wont do another one for a few years. The thing worked awesome, much much faster than doing by hand, especially elbows and Ts. Also capable of doing 6", just need a couple 6" adaptors
 
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muddywater said:
I have a 4" reed pipe puller i will sell for $325 shipped. It runs about a grand new. I finished my 4" gasketed main job and probably wont do another one for a few years. The thing worked awesome, much much faster than doing by hand, especially elbows and Ts. Also capable of doing 6", just need a couple 6" adaptors
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just curious. how fast is faster than by hand.?

i have always just used duckbutter and a bar on gasket pipe.

how long does it take to put the puller on the pipes?
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They put 500' together in 30-40 minutes. We could put it together outside of the 3' trench and did not have to have the pipe connected to push against.

I still dont know how you guys can push on an elbow with a bar. I was glad we had the joiner for some tight spots with fittings going out of a sleeve then back in a sleeve in a 3' trench.
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muddywater said:
They put 500' together in 30-40 minutes. We could put it together outside of the 3' trench and did not have to have the pipe connected to push against.

I still dont know how you guys can push on an elbow with a bar. I was glad we had the joiner for some tight spots with fittings going out of a sleeve then back in a sleeve in a 3' trench.
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So what is the trick to get an elbow on with a bar(besides duck butter)? We couldn't get one on for the life of us. We tried for about 30 minutes b/c I did not want to reconfigure the pipe joiner to fit in the trench between sleeves, but we just could not get a good push because curve in the back of the elbow. Do you have some sort of adaptor that helps get a straight push on the elbow?
 
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muddywater said:
So what is the trick to get an elbow on with a bar(besides duck butter)? We couldn't get one on for the life of us. We tried for about 30 minutes b/c I did not want to reconfigure the pipe joiner to fit in the trench between sleeves, but we just could not get a good push because curve in the back of the elbow. Do you have some sort of adaptor that helps get a straight push on the elbow?
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After a few miles of underground a guy gets a pretty good feel for pipeline installs.
Proper preparation is the key on all sizes of pipe, or anything for that matter.
Yes i have made several push tools but they aren't worth a damn if the pipe isn't prepped right.
I have tried many different tools and devices from clamps to forks and spoons but in the end i found that the forks and saddle chocks that i made worked on all sizes of pipe if the pipe is prepped correctly.
I never rolled a gasket but had a 12 in mj fail on a fire sprinkler line in 92.
Funny thing is that this year 2 new 15 in orchard sprinkler mains failed because of gaskets, told them right off what it was.
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1idejim said:
After a few miles of underground a guy gets a pretty good feel for pipeline installs.
Proper preparation is the key on all sizes of pipe, or anything for that matter.
Yes i have made several push tools but they aren't worth a damn if the pipe isn't prepped right.
I have tried many different tools and devices from clamps to forks and spoons but in the end i found that the forks and saddle chocks that i made worked on all sizes of pipe if the pipe is prepped correctly.
I never rolled a gasket but had a 12 in mj fail on a fire sprinkler line in 92.
Funny thing is that this year 2 new 15 in orchard sprinkler mains failed because of gaskets, told them right off what it was.
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Yeah i figured you had a trick. If i had your experience, i prob wouldnt need a joiner.... but it bridged the gap on this one!
 
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